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Tesla Model S: One Whopper of a Battery Pack

by:HGB     2020-02-25
Tesla Motor Company said:
The electric Model S sport sedan will join the sports car at the end of 2011, initially for sale with a battery pack offering 165 and 230 miles.
But Tesla also said that the basis of $57,400
Price cars (eligible for a $7,500 federal tax credit) will have a third option after a year of listing: a battery pack that will provide an impressive 300-mile range between charges.
But how big must this bag be?
In an interview, J. B.
Straubel, chief technology officer at Tesla Motors, said the size of the package has not yet been finalized.
But between 85 and 95, he says.
Hours are possible.
We don\'t want to print a number, sir. Straubel said.
This will be the biggest package on the market and we will design and build it ourselves. âx80x9dMr.
Straubel does not seem to be worried about the prospect of construction.
Size, weight and cost
Unprecedented battery pack.
He says it\'s like saying there\'s never been such a big gas tank.
Considering the height of the experiment, this package is in technical reality.
Tesla is working with density batteries
Straubel explains that with today\'s technology, these batteries can drive sports cars between 280 and 300 miles.
\"When we announced the sports car, skeptics said we would never exceed 200 miles,\" he said . \".
The official mileage of the sports car is 244 miles.
Of course, there are some people who are skeptical about 300-
The Mile battery pack, at least with today\'s technology.
Dick gelaere is the chief engineer of the Ford battery car project at Magna International Motor Company, and plans to produce 2011 vehicles.
He said a pickup truck would be needed to transport the batteries.
It may weigh more than 1,000 pounds, maybe 1,200. âx80x9d Mr.
Costgelaere also predicts that the cost will be three times that of standard packaging.
Everything is about quality, he said.
If Tesla has a way to make it light, maybe they can get there.
But they need some major breakthroughs, which will be difficult based on existing technologies.
Paul Wilber, president and chief executive of appers, also expressed some doubts that he is building a three-
Wheeled air-powered electric vehicles released later this year (originally only in California ).
This is a huge bag, he said.
We\'re about 20 KW. hours.
Even if such a bag is 50 cents per watt
An hour, it will be a $45,000 battery, incredibly expensive and incredibly heavy, maybe 1,800 pounds.
He also said that even if there is 220, the charging time will be very long. volt service. But Mr.
Wilber said that a technological breakthrough could throw everything I just said out of the window, citing a new $100 million factory built by GE in northern New York. nickel-
Chlorine batteries (originally used for locomotives and other heavy-duty-
Application on duty) with Mr.
Wilber said that the energy density of the lithium family is higher than anything in the lithium family.
Charles jiansenheimer, chairman and chief executive of battery maker Ener1, said if Tesla continues to use its small laptop,
Size Battery, 85-need about 12,000kilowatt-
Hour battery pack.
Sports cars use less than 7,000. Mr.
Straubel declined to price the upcoming battery pack, but said it would definitely not be some inappropriate pricethe-
It\'s not $100,000.
This will be consistent with the overall car price.
In a design News article last month
Mr. Straubel said he believes the cost per kilowatt can be reduced to $300.
An hour later, put the bag in the $18,000 baseball stadium. Mr.
Straubel pointed out that Tesla has more than three years to make 300-
A mile of reality.
Battery technology has increased by about 8% a year, he said, doubling the energy density in the past 10 years.
He predicts that there will be a rich trend of improvement in the next few decades. by 2015, he expects the package that will be able to upgrade the Model S to 300 miles will look like three-year-old technology.
The tip of the car\'s battery pack will be 350-
Range 370 miles.
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Well. . . What can I say?
I have a few comments, but at the risk of being the first poster, what I want to say is, I will say. “Hmmm….
This is an interesting article. ”; -
The 300-mile battery pack is a meaningless movement.
If you need to go that far, or further, you just need to rent a car that is driven by old fashioned gasoline or diesel.
Even if they have the ability to produce this longrange-
Electric car owners can rent a lot of cars for only $18,000.
I agree with rod that this is unnecessary, but I\'m glad they\'re pushing the technology forward so there\'s time to rent a gas powered car.
Tesla has been thriving on extravel agent claims.
Although delivery is always late, they have been able to deliver some kind of bluff and bluff.
It is clear that some of the statements are based on their explanation of the future trend in battery design. I. e. , vaporware.
But the trend is positive, so they may succeed if they are lucky.
Calling 300 is a bit strange.
The mile range is meaningless.
No matter how far the battery takes you, you are not charging.
You\'re not thinking about the big picture;
Electric cars are no longer toys. not all car owners are rich people. they don\'t care if they have to rent another car.
Also, if you are used to an electric luxury car, the rented Impala is not attractive.
As a result, the sports car already has a nominal range of 244 miles, and the battery pack is made of less than ideal super small batteries
The c-size battery for the laptop is stuffed into a fairly small package.
The Model S will have a battery in 230 miles.
The mileage of 300 miles is only 25% kilometers.
Why is this considered an impossible jump in three years?
Yes, 300 miles is an important milestone.
People don\'t want to rent a car every time they need to travel 120 miles, which is actually regular for most people.
Most destinations don\'t guarantee that you have a place to charge an electric car (or enough time), so you have to plan a round trip without charging.
No one likes to drive an empty car all the time.
In fact, it\'s stressful to think every day if your battery is enough on this trip.
This extra range provides a level of comfort that today\'s battery car doesn\'t have.
I must agree with Rod.
300 miles is not necessary for an electric car because every time I go home I plug it in.
With the gas, it would be painful if I needed to go to the pump a lot, but the battery is not the case.
I can rent a car if I go on a long trip.
In any case, it may be more cost-effective than investing in a huge package.
I always thought that we should make cars as much as possible because any fool can buy them.
Now, if you run out of gas on the highway, you can walk all the way to the nearest gas station, refuel, walk back to your car and move on.
What happens if someone runs out of battery?
Rod, I must agree with Panhard (the name is good! ).
Unless the battery brings a technological breakthrough, electric cars will be mostly commuter cars. Oh please-
Will you get a review from all the companies Ford and shoot down what Tesla is doing?
The death found on the side of the road was barely able to catch up with the hybrid, and Tesla\'s car was sold out.
Maybe Ford should buy a Tesla and make a real production of the car.
Actually, I took it back.
I would like to see Tesla become a big car manufacturer in the future.
What happens when everyone has an electric car and taxes the grid that has collapsed?
Also, how can Electric vehicles be cleaner when the fuel used to generate electrical activity is most likely to be coal or other fossil contaminants?
The Liberals will not allow us to build any new nuclear power plants.
If they can find a way to charge on the route, 300 miles is possible.
But there are many hamster.
This is not a meaningless exercise at all.
Although average car owners rarely drive more than 80 miles at a time, they all hope to be able to drive from New York to Maine after notification.
If they feel the car doesn\'t give them the ability, they won\'t buy it.
It seems illogical to you, but that\'s how people think and behave.
If you want them to drive an electric car, you need to give them the car that meets their expectations.
I must disagree with Mr. Panhard —
I go to my farm almost every weekend and travel 199 miles all the way (it\'s a pretty big trip, trust me, we\'re trying to get closer! ).
This range suits me and I will seriously consider this option even at this price.
The price of the battery will cause the sticker of the car to vibrate, but I believe that electric is definitely the road to the future.
The cost of driving an all-electric vehicle (miles per mile) is much lower than gasoline equivalent.
Once Telsa and other manufacturers are able to reduce the initial cost of the car, consumers will be happy to pay less for their daily commute.
As for \"mileage anxiety\", how often do you drive more than 300 miles?
In the long run, fast
Charging or replacing the battery pack will make this argument against the appliance obsolete.
In the short term, think about how many families with 2 or 3 cars don\'t care if one of them has a slight mileage limit.
I think the internal combustion engine is a meaningless sport.
I drive about 20 miles a day.
During some short rides, the engine did not even warm up to a sufficiently high temperature for effective operation.
Driving especially in winter.
Instead of my current fuel.
I would be happy to use an electric car within 50 miles.
This is enough to meet my daily driving needs.
Also, considering that the cost of electricity is very low and very clean, it is also very cheap to drive.
Just think about it, most people don\'t even need a car that runs 300 miles.
In addition, the price of gasoline seems to have risen again recently . . . . . . They won\'t do it with sodium. nickel-
Chloride Batteries that work at 270 degrees Celsius, see:/en. wikipedia.
Org/wiki/Molten_salt_batteryThis may be the peripheral part of the article bullet points about battery life/mileage range, but every time I see another aerodynamic styling of the car we expect to have, I have to add it all.
I am referring to the evolution of what was once called a \"bumper.
Look at the exquisite look of this Tesla.
Are all owners informed at the time of purchase of the replacement cost of the crust and the cost of the facade decoration covering the actual bumper behind it?
Are we all promising that we will never run into such a vehicle, let alone hit something with great force in front or behind?
None of them are complete.
Small pickup trucks, consumers have no choice but to buy these low resistance coefficient \"jelly beans\" cars, whether they are gasoline or electric cars.
#2-Rod, \"the battery pack in the 300 mile range is a pointless movement.
If you need to go that far, or further, you just need to rent a car that is driven by old fashioned gasoline or diesel.
\"Why would I buy an electric car and then rent another car within 300 miles?
It seems completely absurd.
What\'s the point?
Why not buy a hybrid?
Get a good mpg and get to your destination without having to worry about running out of battery.
A company is working on a battery replacement plan.
Instead of charging your battery pack, you exchange it with a replacement that has been charged.
This can be done at a gas station like setup.
What is missing is the infrastructure that makes electric cars successful.
Maybe once we find some on the road, we will start to see the remote charging station.
Imagine stopping at a rest stop on the highway for a bite, and while you\'re at a restaurant, you charge your care for 30 minutes with a quick charger.
It may not be filled with an empty battery, but it may allow you to walk another 100 miles or so on the road.
Enough for you to spend the night at the hotel where you can charge your car.
Considering that we have given Tesla half the price, it is not impossible.
Billions of dollars in loans can, of course, fund some very substantial developments.
Compared to federal support for materials science and engineering, or in this regard, this is a huge amount.
Moreover, an unsafe loan is close to an additional one.
However, it raises a philosophical question of distinguishing between promising bragging and realistic predictions for business purposes.
The difficulty of this distinction lies not in the possibility of a breakthrough, nor in making technology possible, but in the extreme difficulty of fixing technology on a schedule and budget.
First of all, I can\'t get a grant or loan unless I have some hard evidence that others can see and evaluate.
This is all about open Publications.
Politicians and their personal advisers are not particularly good.
Being able to evaluate any type of technology, breakthroughs in secret or proprietary technology are generally not funded by public funds.
He said a pickup truck would be needed to transport the batteries.
It may weigh more than 1,000 pounds, maybe 1,200.
A budget car is sold for more than 2000.
If the battery gets bigger, the most popular car manufacturers will be DURACELL and EVERYREADY.
Eveyready Cat is a cool car logo-a shocking electric Jaguar.
You have AA, AAA, 9 V, C and D.
The battery of the car will be three times.
Forget about the controversy of the car bumper, each car will have a front terminal bump on the front, and there will be a recessed negative terminal on the tail.
Connect the three cars and you can power the flat-screen TV.
Huge stickers will be attached to the new car: battery included.
There is a point of diminishing return: power reserve and weight. .
Some ideal sweet spot compromises must be sought.
1200 is too much, 100 is too little.
Re #2: \"If you need to go that far, or further, you just need to rent a car that is driven by old fashioned gasoline or diesel.
\"Sorry, but why on earth would you expect most people to want to rent a coach?
In addition to practical considerations, this is personal for many American cars.
Renting a car for a long trip is like renting a pair of hiking boots;
Uncomfortable and disgusting.
Better carry the Volt concept further: smaller, lighter (but more energy)
The Dense) battery pack is combined with an efficient Stirling engine to expand the range.
Re #11: \"What happens when everyone has an electric car and taxes the grid that has collapsed? ”Non-
Problem: each power company makes a load forecast, forecasts future demand, and obtains power generation supply.
So when there is a huge demand for Tesla and other companies to upgrade production to charging electric cars and/or electric cars, utilities see the demand for the future, A sufficient number of nuclear power plants can be built-or solar energy on the roof, etc. -to supply it.
The future of car ownership: twovehicle model1. A short-range, all-
Electric run.
The maximum distance of charging is 30-50 miles range.
Usage mode: short
Travel and commuting.
Travel to markets, pharmacies, football matches for children, libraries, movies, etc.
The configuration can be sedan, Van, van, or even similar to a small pickup truck. 2. A long-range, liquid-fuel cruiser.
Go skiing on weekends, go to the beach, visit grandparents, take a vacation, etc.
A family may use shortrange, all-
Power the driving needs of 80 + % and reserve more expensive liquidsfuel, long-
Remote Car for special use.
More expensive liquid
Fuel car usage will be low and can theoretically be used for many years before it needs to be replaced.
Or someone can have partial ownership of the liquid.
Fuel cars (like many people use light aircraft) share the cost with several others and check the car when needed.
A owner\'s club is run like an airline club.
Clubs may prepare cars, vans and trucks for specific needs and occasions.
We have to have two cars now?
I think the cost of two cars is definitely more than a hybrid.
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